QL iCTF OpenCupFall 2012 (Read 3,513 times)

[thewookster]

ahhhhhh must have to wait for terrorj

[terrorj]

Wooks,you and Swamp also get the powers to do it.Dont you see any inbox mail?Wil take a look when im back home in an hour.

[thewookster]

Nope, no inbox mail

[swampy]

no inbox ,either..

[terrorj]

Okay lolzy added,welcome to the team

Strange you guys dont get a message of it,made you both trustee.
Im guessin you can only do the matches thingies then...

[Marcer]

Thanks.
BTW, who is a trustee on CB?

[terrorj]

Sow in about an hour the match if they show up
Its me,proph,exploit and lolzy then

[terrorj]

Well done
Whe did cap every match and with courtyard as I know is their map whe just lost with 4/3 sow well done!!
Especially when thinking that 2 couldnt communicate on mumble and whe didnt use our most experienced players,next time whe beat them

[Prophy]

I am still flabbergasted by my cap on ironworks within the first minute!!!

[Marcer]

That is good Prophy. You start to understand and employ the element of surprise
At one point we were able to keep the enemy @ 2:0 on Ironworks and we messsed up.
Just a note: "all attack" is not necessarily a good idea when playing against semi-good clan like this or somebody above So I think that next time do not attack as one. The base was wildly undefended and I often had to go back to find it deserted and enemy fc rolling thru mid with impunity. Our enemies had 1-2 guys on constant def with one slightly in mid (as he should be). I mean, this is not a pub and the enemies are kinda different. They were mediocre one-by-one but in team they managed to put hurt on us. Just stay at our designated positions next time

[thewookster]

well done

[Prophy]

Nov 5, 2012 16:24:41 GMT -6 Marcer said:

That is good Prophy. You start to understand and employ the element of surprise
At one point we were able to keep the enemy @ 2:0 on Ironworks and we messsed up.
Just a note: "all attack" is not necessarily a good idea when playing against semi-good clan like this or somebody above So I think that next time do not attack as one. The base was wildly undefended and I often had to go back to find it deserted and enemy fc rolling thru mid with impunity. Our enemies had 1-2 guys on constant def with one slightly in mid (as he should be). I mean, this is not a pub and the enemies are kinda different. They were mediocre one-by-one but in team they managed to put hurt on us. Just stay at our designated positions next time

you should have heard terror on mumble 'Fook it, lets all attack!' But I think you did a great job.!

[terrorj]

Hehe lolll it was the point when whe where losing control of the map At some point I did the defending alone and let you all attack You didnt hear that on mumble,hehe
But they where suddenly attacking with all theyre 4 players,thats when I said to do the same But didnt work sow good...sow then whe took back mid control and we did a very nice job!

[Marcer]

I suppose youre right given how I was deaf thanks to the "no mumble" status I held yesterday.

You Prophy also did proper good job, I don't mention Terrorj b/c he was his usual excellent self

In CTF, when played against much better opponents, when the opposing team is forced to put most or even all of their players on attack, it means that you're weak in offense and good at defense. Given how one good CTF player can be enough to snatch the flag and move it back to the base, no self-respecting team leaves their base undefended - unless theyre desperate or are certain that no matter what the enemy does, they will be able to reclaim the flag so controlling the base is a minor factor there. Fact is, they put enough pressure on us mid-forward to force us towards desperate attempts on lucky snatching the flag.

Also in CTF some teams employ a very simple yet effective tactics. They force enemy team to go "all attack" and then shut out the flag room with several players. In this case (4v4) its 2 on def and 2 on spearhead attack. Extreme version of this is 1 on att and 3 on def.
I played CTF where such tactics were effective when you put your best movers (not aimers, mind you, but if you have a guy who both moves fast and aims well, it's all in one package) to the front line and the rest of the team shut out the base. The attackers work like an unfolding telescopic prod: Out of the pair the first one stays mid-forward so he can cover the second one that goes for the flag and cover him/make enemy busy. Then the second one is mid-back where one or two of the defenders lighten the block on the base, grab him and lead to the base safely.

Problem with iCTF is that you get killed instantly so the window of opportunity for your attacker to snatch the flag before enemy team regains mid and shuts out the path is very narrow. There are no PUs, no health packs, nothing. So its a lot more dynamic and more punishing when you make an error. Anyways, it's all in the training isnt it.

Anyway, looking forward to the next training. This one was extremely funny and very entertaining.

[thewookster]

you can download the mumble client from here lolzy and be able to listen in.

www.mumble.com

then just disable overlay to stop lag issues